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		<title>By: Tag Cloud with Perl Script &#171; Computer Science and Algorithms around the World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tag Cloud with Perl Script &#171; Computer Science and Algorithms around the World</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [2] Collocate cloud [3] Second Generation Tag Clouds by Joe Lamantia.com   Computer Science and Algorithms &#160;  perl tag cloud, tag cloud, word cloud &#160;    &#171; 5 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LotsOfCode</title>
		<link>http://www.joelamantia.com/ideas/second-generation-tag-clouds/comment-page-1#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>LotsOfCode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As i mentioned, i am hoping to get working on the next version of my tag cloud within the next few weeks.
Hopefully this can be used in some of the examples you have thought about.
Thank you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As i mentioned, i am hoping to get working on the next version of my tag cloud within the next few weeks.<br />
Hopefully this can be used in some of the examples you have thought about.<br />
Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: bmerkl</title>
		<link>http://www.joelamantia.com/ideas/second-generation-tag-clouds/comment-page-1#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>bmerkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this may fit into your discussion of second generation tag clouds. This website I developed is entirely clouds, both text and images, check it out here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chainofthoughts.com/cgi-bin/ex.cgi?n=ideas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;chainofthoughts.com&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this may fit into your discussion of second generation tag clouds. This website I developed is entirely clouds, both text and images, check it out here:<br />
<a href="http://www.chainofthoughts.com/cgi-bin/ex.cgi?n=ideas" rel="nofollow">chainofthoughts.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonatan</title>
		<link>http://www.joelamantia.com/ideas/second-generation-tag-clouds/comment-page-1#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonatan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is having a Tag cloud to any advantage in the SEO?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is having a Tag cloud to any advantage in the SEO?</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud Suggest</title>
		<link>http://www.joelamantia.com/ideas/second-generation-tag-clouds/comment-page-1#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud Suggest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, the article is more than an yr old you are right on track. People will try to use this cloud concept for a variety of things. And the clouds will perhaps be more interactive. One such interaction is created at &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.ToCloud.com/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ToCloud&#039;s Cloud Suggest mashup&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s essentially a mashup with Google Suggest. The idea is that when the user clicks a tag/word in the cloud, the list of alternate and popular words related to that word are displayed in a popup. These alternate words are those provided by Google Suggest.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, the article is more than an yr old you are right on track. People will try to use this cloud concept for a variety of things. And the clouds will perhaps be more interactive. One such interaction is created at <a href='http://www.ToCloud.com/' rel="nofollow">ToCloud’s Cloud Suggest mashup</a>. It’s essentially a mashup with Google Suggest. The idea is that when the user clicks a tag/word in the cloud, the list of alternate and popular words related to that word are displayed in a popup. These alternate words are those provided by Google Suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: Stewart McKie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart McKie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe
Great, insightful posts on tag clouds.
My site at www.scriptcloud.com has a long way to go but is an example of clouds being used in a specific context.
I&#039;d be interested in your comments.
Best
Stewart McKie
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe<br />
Great, insightful posts on tag clouds.<br />
My site at <a href="http://www.scriptcloud.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scriptcloud.com</a> has a long way to go but is an example of clouds being used in a specific context.<br />
I’d be interested in your comments.<br />
Best<br />
Stewart McKie</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel,
I expected to see more steps toward second generation clouds by now... Perhaps the timeline will tend more to the longer end of the range I suggested - 18 months - or maybe I&#039;m way off base with all my predictions :)
Likely it hasn&#039;t been long enough since tag clouds emerged for people outside the ealry adopter community to become accustomed to them, and push for increases in sophistication and capability.   Rates of change and adoption often seem much slower during transition stages between communities.
Great point about the potential for a tag cloud to serve as visualization for a semantic field.  And applying it to research interests seems a like an opportune starting point.  Maybe clouds will become standard on CVs, resumes, or calling cards, as more people grow accustomed to looking at and reading them.
For instance, an informal survey of co-workers shows we all use the clouds  displayed in del.icio.us and other environments as a quick check on what someone might be working with or thinking of.
On Tagcrowd - Good choice of parameters for grouping and inclusion / exclusion.  How did you decide on these?  How do you identify the word groupings?  Lexical analysis, concept mapping, standard dictionaries...?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,<br />
I expected to see more steps toward second generation clouds by now… Perhaps the timeline will tend more to the longer end of the range I suggested — 18 months — or maybe I’m way off base with all my predictions <img src='http://www.joelamantia.com/wp_test/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Likely it hasn’t been long enough since tag clouds emerged for people outside the ealry adopter community to become accustomed to them, and push for increases in sophistication and capability.   Rates of change and adoption often seem much slower during transition stages between communities.<br />
Great point about the potential for a tag cloud to serve as visualization for a semantic field.  And applying it to research interests seems a like an opportune starting point.  Maybe clouds will become standard on CVs, resumes, or calling cards, as more people grow accustomed to looking at and reading them.<br />
For instance, an informal survey of co-workers shows we all use the clouds  displayed in del.icio.us and other environments as a quick check on what someone might be working with or thinking of.<br />
On Tagcrowd — Good choice of parameters for grouping and inclusion / exclusion.  How did you decide on these?  How do you identify the word groupings?  Lexical analysis, concept mapping, standard dictionaries…?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Steinbock</title>
		<link>http://www.joelamantia.com/ideas/second-generation-tag-clouds/comment-page-1#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Steinbock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great analysis, Joe. There is obviously a lot of room for innovation with tag clouds. I appreciate especially your predictions about user controls over tag cloud presentation, filters for context.
Yet I&#039;m writing six months after your article was written and still have yet to see any great leap forward in developing a new genre beyond 1st generation directory searching.
One idea that didn&#039;t come up in your two essays was the use of tag clouds as static representations of semantic fields *only*. I&#039;ve started doing this at Stanford recently by printing tag clouds to visualize the research interests of Stanford researchers on posters, name tags and business cards.
I created a web application at &lt;a href=&quot;http://tagcrowd.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TagCrowd.com&lt;/a&gt; just for this purpose (alpha stage) where you can enter any text and create a tag cloud that visualizes word frequency. Check it out and let me know what you think.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great analysis, Joe. There is obviously a lot of room for innovation with tag clouds. I appreciate especially your predictions about user controls over tag cloud presentation, filters for context.<br />
Yet I’m writing six months after your article was written and still have yet to see any great leap forward in developing a new genre beyond 1st generation directory searching.<br />
One idea that didn’t come up in your two essays was the use of tag clouds as static representations of semantic fields *only*. I’ve started doing this at Stanford recently by printing tag clouds to visualize the research interests of Stanford researchers on posters, name tags and business cards.<br />
I created a web application at <a href="http://tagcrowd.com" rel="nofollow">TagCrowd.com</a> just for this purpose (alpha stage) where you can enter any text and create a tag cloud that visualizes word frequency. Check it out and let me know what you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Patterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathew Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great in-depth article Joe. It may interest you to know that when I was working at Priceline Europe, we implemented tag clouds for hotel reviews.
You can see an example here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.priceline.co.uk/pcln/hotel/reviews/123785&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Virginia Cottage Reviews&lt;/a&gt;.
We contemplated multiple tag clouds on a single page, but decided against it - not enough of the broad hotel booking audience have been exposed to the concept yet.
Usability testing later showed that a lot of our users haven&#039;t really got the concept, so it is likely to be a slow process of introduction.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great in-depth article Joe. It may interest you to know that when I was working at Priceline Europe, we implemented tag clouds for hotel reviews.<br />
You can see an example here: <a href="http://www.priceline.co.uk/pcln/hotel/reviews/123785" rel="nofollow">Virginia Cottage Reviews</a>.<br />
We contemplated multiple tag clouds on a single page, but decided against it — not enough of the broad hotel booking audience have been exposed to the concept yet.<br />
Usability testing later showed that a lot of our users haven’t really got the concept, so it is likely to be a slow process of introduction.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, sorry for the off-topic comment, but I don&#039;t see any other way to contact you.
I like your articles, and I&#039;ve tagged a number of them in delicious for future reference. Unfortunately, the title of every post on your site is &quot;Joe Lamantia.com&quot; which means I have to copy/paste the post title when I tag it.
Any chance you could add meaningful titles to your pages? It would only make a great site better :).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, sorry for the off-topic comment, but I don’t see any other way to contact you.<br />
I like your articles, and I’ve tagged a number of them in delicious for future reference. Unfortunately, the title of every post on your site is “Joe Lamantia.com” which means I have to copy/paste the post title when I tag it.<br />
Any chance you could add meaningful titles to your pages? It would only make a great site better <img src='http://www.joelamantia.com/wp_test/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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